When someone listens to a preacher, one has to honestly wonder if they think about what they're saying before they say it.
After all, there is that saying "Preaching to the Choir" where you speak only to those who already whole-heartedly believe and do not bother to question what you say. And anyone who spends any amount of time on the internet knows that "Choir Preaching" only ever results in buttpats and usually poor if not outright false information being given due to the total lack of any constructive (or any at all) criticism.
This becomes quickly an issue of arrogance for anyone who is left without criticisms of their words or deeds. Religious and Skeptical alike.
The reason for this is I was listening to an old speech made by Walter Martin (Dr? I question it…) who was… well ironically, complaining that all establishments of higher education were brain washing schools of Atheism.
But then, goes on to claim Atheists don't create anything. That they don't make schools (only I guess take them over and teach in them?) that they don't make hospitals (I guess they just work in them with that higher education that the "religious" apparently don't need?) that they do no charitable works.
I was listening to the part of it "What Schools have Atheists built?" and before he could even continue with his train of thought (leading into a resounding "None!") I answered with "nearly all of them?" because the Government is a secular organization and you know, more countries exist then America.
I suddenly realized, I think he doesn't know what secular means.
Anything the Government does is a secular accomplishment, unless you're living in a theocracy if the Government builds something, it's secular. So all public schools are indeed secular.
All public hospitals are secular.
All public charities are secular.
In fact, the first two hospitals established in the USA at all (and well 200 years AFTER the USA was first discovered) were secular to boot, because I guess the "Founding religious fathers" couldn't be arsed to take care of the sick and ailing?
Even today with various religions being what they are only 13% of all hospitals are "Religious run" (Which just means state run, but with fewer services since church money only makes up .0015% of the money for the hospital comes from the religion on average.)
And that's not just Christians, that's ALL religious hospitals. Mormons, Jews, Muslims, Hindu's what have you.
What hospitals have Atheists built? Try 87% of all hospitals.
It gets even better. For Profit hospitals (Privet owned business hospitals, which considering they're for profit, it doesn't matter what religion the owner is, he's getting into the hospital game for gain not God making it the very antithesis of religion) on average write off .8% to charity care. Religious hospitals do a bit better with 1.9%.
Godless secular hospitals? About 5.1% they give to charity.
What have the Secular done?
LOTS my friend, LOTS.
A better question to answer is to seriously look into the question of "What have the faithful done?"
Wars? Religious killings? segregation? because based on the numbers, it certainly hasn't been charity and kindness for as much as they'd like it to look that way.
(Certainly by no means am I saying if you're "religious" your a jackass and if you're Secular you're good. I'm saying we're ALL jackasses only the Religious are hypocritical jackasses because they claim a higher authority.)
((And yes, every time a Skeptic isn't using scientific theory properly or claim to disprove something without proper evidence or let their bias influence their belief they're being just as much of a hypocritical jagoff)
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